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Thread: Evolution of the miniSeed format - Meeting at the EGU

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Started: Feb. 17, 2016, 2:57 p.m.
Last activity: Feb. 29, 2016, 9:29 a.m.
Tim Ahern
Feb. 17, 2016, 2:57 p.m.
Greetings

You are receiving this email because you are a manufacturer of seismic data acquisition systems, a member of FDSN WGII on formats, on the FDSN executive committee or someone closely involved with equipment within IRIS. Fee free to share this email with others you think would be interested.

IRIS, along with its partners in the FDSN, are organizing a meeting to discuss the future of the time-series portion of the SEED format, namely miniSeed.
As the metadata portion of SEED is changing from dateless SEED to StationXML, it is necessary to consider necessary or desirable changes to the time series portion of SEED as well.

The purpose of this meeting is to get FDSN member networks and manufacturers of seismic acquisition equipment in a meeting where different perspectives can be shared and begin first steps toward a new definition of the time series portion of SEED format. It is important for manufacturers to provide input into this process since many manufacturers produce miniSeed formatted data in the datalogger or through software processing systems external to the data logging process. This meeting will serve as a starting point and it is intended to then follow a standard Request for Comment (RFC) approach as the dialogue continues.

As many of you will be at the EGU in Vienna from April 17-22, 2016 we would like to include all interested parties in the meeting.
Please forward this email to others within your organization or more broadly to groups you think may be interested in participating.

If you or someone in your organization will attend please reply to this email (gale<at>iris.washington.edu <gale<at>iris.washington.edu> and tim<at>iris.washington.edu <tim<at>iris.washington.edu>) with
Your Name, Organization, number coming from you organization and position within the organization and we will add you to the list of interested parties.

We do not yet have a time or a room reserved as we are waiting to see how many people express an interest in attending.
Please respond by 26 February 2016 at which time we will determine the meeting time and place.


Regards
Cheers

Dr. Tim Ahern
FDSN Archive for Continuous Data
International Federation of Digital Seismograph Networks (FDSN)
c/o IRIS DMC
1408 NE 45th Street #201
Seattle, WA 98105
(206)547-0393 x118
(206) 547-1093 FAX



  • Doug Neuhauser
    Feb. 24, 2016, 10:06 a.m.
    Tim,

    I am very interested in participating in this discussion, but will not
    be able to attend the EUG meeting.

    The other point I would like to make is that I have seen no proposal
    to replace the metadata portion of SEED with stationXML.
    If this is the goal, I believe that a proposal to this effect
    should be submitted for discussion to the FDSN. I don't disagree
    that this is a logical progression, but if SEED is a standard,
    it should change by a standards process. My understanding is
    that the FDSN has adopted stationXML as a metadata format, but NOT as
    a SEED format. Perhaps this is just semantics...
    Perhaps you can clarify this.

    Thanks.

    - Doug N


    On 02/24/2016 09:02 AM, Tim Ahern wrote:
    Greetings

    You are receiving this email because you are a manufacturer of
    seismic data acquisition systems, a member of FDSN WGII on formats,
    on the FDSN executive committee or someone closely involved with
    equipment within IRIS. Fee free to share this email with others you
    think would be interested.

    IRIS, along with its partners in the FDSN, are organizing a meeting
    to discuss the future of the time-series portion of the SEED format,
    namely miniSeed.
    As the metadata portion of SEED is changing from dateless SEED to
    StationXML, it is necessary to consider necessary or desirable
    changes to the time series portion of SEED as well.

    The purpose of this meeting is to get FDSN member networks and
    manufacturers of seismic acquisition equipment in a meeting where
    different perspectives can be shared and begin first steps toward a
    new definition of the time series portion of SEED format. It is
    important for manufacturers to provide input into this process since
    many manufacturers produce miniSeed formatted data in the datalogger
    or through software processing systems external to the data logging
    process. This meeting will serve as a starting point and it is
    intended to then follow a standard Request for Comment (RFC) approach
    as the dialogue continues.

    As many of you will be at the EGU in Vienna from April 17-22, 2016 we
    would like to include all interested parties in the meeting.
    Please forward this email to others within your organization or more
    broadly to groups you think may be interested in participating.

    If you or someone in your organization will attend please reply to
    this email (gale<at>iris.washington.edu
    <gale<at>iris.washington.edu> and tim<at>iris.washington.edu
    <tim<at>iris.washington.edu>) with
    *Your Name, Organization, number coming from you organization and
    position within the organization *and we will add you to the list of
    interested parties.

    We do not yet have a time or a room reserved as we are waiting to see
    how many people express an interest in attending.
    *Please respond by 26 February 2016 *at which time we will determine
    the meeting time and place.


    Regards
    Cheers

    Dr. Tim Ahern
    FDSN Archive for Continuous Data
    International Federation of Digital Seismograph Networks (FDSN)
    c/o IRIS DMC
    1408 NE 45th Street #201
    Seattle, WA 98105
    (206)547-0393 x118
    (206) 547-1093 FAX





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    • Tim Ahern
      Feb. 24, 2016, 12:52 p.m.
      Hi Doug, from my perspective I think it is semantics. I think the general sense of the FDSN is that the dateless construct is too confining and that StationXML will evolve to a richer format that will ultimately
      become the standard for metadata within the FDSN. Version 1.0 is really just dateless but a step toward the next, more complete and richer versions, Others can chime in if they see that differently but that is my perspective.

      On another point you’re raising is that any member of the FDSN or its working groups can begin discussions they are interested in and I encourage you to do so. I am just a member of WGII and interested in the t9pic in the original email.



      Cheer

      Tim Ahern

      Director of Data Services
      IRIS

      IRIS DMC
      1408 NE 45th Street #201
      Seattle, WA 98105

      (206)547-0393 x118
      (206) 547-1093 FAX




      On Feb 24, 2016, at 10:06 AM, Doug Neuhauser <doug<at>seismo.berkeley.edu> wrote:

      Tim,

      I am very interested in participating in this discussion, but will not
      be able to attend the EUG meeting.

      The other point I would like to make is that I have seen no proposal
      to replace the metadata portion of SEED with stationXML.
      If this is the goal, I believe that a proposal to this effect
      should be submitted for discussion to the FDSN. I don't disagree
      that this is a logical progression, but if SEED is a standard,
      it should change by a standards process. My understanding is
      that the FDSN has adopted stationXML as a metadata format, but NOT as
      a SEED format. Perhaps this is just semantics...
      Perhaps you can clarify this.

      Thanks.

      - Doug N


      On 02/24/2016 09:02 AM, Tim Ahern wrote:
      Greetings

      You are receiving this email because you are a manufacturer of
      seismic data acquisition systems, a member of FDSN WGII on formats,
      on the FDSN executive committee or someone closely involved with
      equipment within IRIS. Fee free to share this email with others you
      think would be interested.

      IRIS, along with its partners in the FDSN, are organizing a meeting
      to discuss the future of the time-series portion of the SEED format,
      namely miniSeed.
      As the metadata portion of SEED is changing from dateless SEED to
      StationXML, it is necessary to consider necessary or desirable
      changes to the time series portion of SEED as well.

      The purpose of this meeting is to get FDSN member networks and
      manufacturers of seismic acquisition equipment in a meeting where
      different perspectives can be shared and begin first steps toward a
      new definition of the time series portion of SEED format. It is
      important for manufacturers to provide input into this process since
      many manufacturers produce miniSeed formatted data in the datalogger
      or through software processing systems external to the data logging
      process. This meeting will serve as a starting point and it is
      intended to then follow a standard Request for Comment (RFC) approach
      as the dialogue continues.

      As many of you will be at the EGU in Vienna from April 17-22, 2016 we
      would like to include all interested parties in the meeting.
      Please forward this email to others within your organization or more
      broadly to groups you think may be interested in participating.

      If you or someone in your organization will attend please reply to
      this email (gale<at>iris.washington.edu
      <gale<at>iris.washington.edu> and tim<at>iris.washington.edu
      <tim<at>iris.washington.edu>) with
      *Your Name, Organization, number coming from you organization and
      position within the organization *and we will add you to the list of
      interested parties.

      We do not yet have a time or a room reserved as we are waiting to see
      how many people express an interest in attending.
      *Please respond by 26 February 2016 *at which time we will determine
      the meeting time and place.


      Regards
      Cheers

      Dr. Tim Ahern
      FDSN Archive for Continuous Data
      International Federation of Digital Seismograph Networks (FDSN)
      c/o IRIS DMC
      1408 NE 45th Street #201
      Seattle, WA 98105
      (206)547-0393 x118
      (206) 547-1093 FAX





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      Doug Neuhauser University of California, Berkeley
      doug<at>seismo.berkeley.edu Berkeley Seismological Laboratory
      Office: 510-642-0931 221 McCone Hall # 4760
      Fax: 510-643-5811 Berkeley, CA 94720-4760
      Remote: 530-752-5615 (Wed,Fri)


  • Reinoud Sleeman
    Feb. 25, 2016, 12:51 p.m.
    Tim,

    thank you for taking this initiative. To start a discussion about the future of SEED is important
    and I consider this upcoming, informal meeting as a first step to make an inventory of current
    issues and to think about possible future solutions. However, this meeting will have to have an informal
    character since it is announced only short before the EGU. But it may be a good starting point for further
    discussion through the WGII mailing list.

    From ORFEUS Data Center both Luca Trani and myself are aiming at participating if it does not
    clash with other planned meetings.

    Best regards,
    Reinoud, Luca


    From: fdsn-wg2-data<at>lists.fdsn.org [fdsn-wg2-data<at>lists.fdsn.org] On Behalf Of Tim Ahern
    Sent: woensdag 24 februari 2016 18:03
    To: FDSN Working Group II
    Subject: [fdsn-wg2-data] Evolution of the miniSeed format - Meeting at the EGU

    Greetings

    You are receiving this email because you are a manufacturer of seismic data acquisition systems, a member of FDSN WGII on formats, on the FDSN executive committee or someone closely involved with equipment within IRIS. Fee free to share this email with others you think would be interested.

    IRIS, along with its partners in the FDSN, are organizing a meeting to discuss the future of the time-series portion of the SEED format, namely miniSeed.
    As the metadata portion of SEED is changing from dateless SEED to StationXML, it is necessary to consider necessary or desirable changes to the time series portion of SEED as well.

    The purpose of this meeting is to get FDSN member networks and manufacturers of seismic acquisition equipment in a meeting where different perspectives can be shared and begin first steps toward a new definition of the time series portion of SEED format. It is important for manufacturers to provide input into this process since many manufacturers produce miniSeed formatted data in the datalogger or through software processing systems external to the data logging process. This meeting will serve as a starting point and it is intended to then follow a standard Request for Comment (RFC) approach as the dialogue continues.

    As many of you will be at the EGU in Vienna from April 17-22, 2016 we would like to include all interested parties in the meeting.
    Please forward this email to others within your organization or more broadly to groups you think may be interested in participating.

    If you or someone in your organization will attend please reply to this email (gale<at>iris.washington.edu<gale<at>iris.washington.edu> and tim<at>iris.washington.edu<tim<at>iris.washington.edu>) with
    Your Name, Organization, number coming from you organization and position within the organization and we will add you to the list of interested parties.

    We do not yet have a time or a room reserved as we are waiting to see how many people express an interest in attending.
    Please respond by 26 February 2016 at which time we will determine the meeting time and place.


    Regards
    Cheers

    Dr. Tim Ahern
    FDSN Archive for Continuous Data
    International Federation of Digital Seismograph Networks (FDSN)
    c/o IRIS DMC
    1408 NE 45th Street #201
    Seattle, WA 98105
    (206)547-0393 x118
    (206) 547-1093 FAX


  • Helle Pedersen
    Feb. 29, 2016, 9:29 a.m.
    Hi,

    from RESIF, we will be 2, or possibly 3 people:
    Helle Pedersen
    Catherine Pequegnat
    (Pierre Volcke)

    Best

    Helle

    Le 24/02/2016 18:02, Tim Ahern a écrit :
    Greetings

    You are receiving this email because you are a manufacturer of seismic
    data acquisition systems, a member of FDSN WGII on formats, on the
    FDSN executive committee or someone closely involved with equipment
    within IRIS. Fee free to share this email with others you think would
    be interested.

    IRIS, along with its partners in the FDSN, are organizing a meeting to
    discuss the future of the time-series portion of the SEED format,
    namely miniSeed.
    As the metadata portion of SEED is changing from dateless SEED to
    StationXML, it is necessary to consider necessary or desirable changes
    to the time series portion of SEED as well.

    The purpose of this meeting is to get FDSN member networks and
    manufacturers of seismic acquisition equipment in a meeting where
    different perspectives can be shared and begin first steps toward a
    new definition of the time series portion of SEED format. It is
    important for manufacturers to provide input into this process since
    many manufacturers produce miniSeed formatted data in the datalogger
    or through software processing systems external to the data logging
    process. This meeting will serve as a starting point and it is
    intended to then follow a standard Request for Comment (RFC) approach
    as the dialogue continues.

    As many of you will be at the EGU in Vienna from April 17-22, 2016 we
    would like to include all interested parties in the meeting.
    Please forward this email to others within your organization or more
    broadly to groups you think may be interested in participating.

    If you or someone in your organization will attend please reply to
    this email (gale<at>iris.washington.edu
    <gale<at>iris.washington.edu> and tim<at>iris.washington.edu
    <tim<at>iris.washington.edu>) with
    *Your Name, Organization, number coming from you organization and
    position within the organization *and we will add you to the list of
    interested parties.

    We do not yet have a time or a room reserved as we are waiting to see
    how many people express an interest in attending.
    *Please respond by 26 February 2016 *at which time we will determine
    the meeting time and place.


    Regards
    Cheers

    Dr. Tim Ahern
    FDSN Archive for Continuous Data
    International Federation of Digital Seismograph Networks (FDSN)
    c/o IRIS DMC
    1408 NE 45th Street #201
    Seattle, WA 98105
    (206)547-0393 x118
    (206) 547-1093 FAX




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